Both children attended private schools. Life changed dramatically for them on May 10th, 1940, when the Nazis invaded Belgium and, because of their Jewish heritage, they were in grave danger.Together with Marc's mother, they managed to escape to France for a while and their journey as refugees began. They travelled to Spain, Morocco, back via Spain and eventually to Lisbon, Portugal. where  they boarded the ship "NYASSA" bound for New York, in 1942. Neither Andre or Pipsi spoke English but they were enrolled in New York City public schools.
Pipsi married Marvin Paymer in 1949, she was 18.
In 1951, their elder son Steve was born, followed by his brother David in 1954. When the children were still very young they moved to the city of Oceanside, on Long Island,NY. where the boys attended local public schools.
Pipsi was a fulltime, caring and loving mother. Marvin worked at his business, and began studying for his PHD in music. (He was an excellent pianist.)
In 1971, her father, Marc,, now a widower, met Shirley in Spain. The rest is "herstory".... "In Their Own Words". 
This book  has been nominated for an award by the Golden Crown Literary Society, in Florida. 
The following email was sent by the reknowned published author,Lillian Faderman, PHD. to the Director of GCLS. 
Dear Kathy L. Smith,
I understand that "SHIRLEY AND PIPSI...IN THEIR OWN WORDS" has already been nominated for GCLS 's Literary awards in the areas of Lesbian Debut Author and Lesbian Essay Collections. I am writing  to second those nominations. 
Some time ago, before this book was published, I had promised to write a forward or a blurb for it because I thought so highly of the project. Unfortunately, with Pipsi's rapidly progressing illness and the rush for publication, I did not have the opportunity to fulfill my promise. But I wish to submit the following blurb to you now in support of the  nomination:
"SHIRLEY AND PIPSI...IN THEIR OWN WORDS" traces the early years of a remarkable lesbian relationship that began by extraordinary chance and continued for almost four decades. The correspondence between Shirley and Pipsi is funny, poignant, sexy, sophisticated, literate and totally engrossing. Vita (Sackville-West) and Virginia (Wolf) could not have written missives any more entrancing than these. Reading these letters-----peering first over Pipsi's shoulder, then over Shirley's, then back again to peruse along with Pipsi, I couldn't help falling in love with these two women through their words, just as they fell in love with each other.